From the CNN website:
Like hundreds of young men joining the Army in recent years, Jeremy Hall professes a desire to serve his country while it fights terrorism. But the short and soft-spoken specialist is at the center of a legal controversy. He has filed a lawsuit alleging that he’s been harassed and his constitutional rights have been violated because he doesn’t believe in God. The suit names Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
“I’m not in it for cash,” Hall said. “I want no one else to go what I went through.” Known as “the atheist guy,” Hall has been called immoral, a devil worshipper and — just as severe to some soldiers — gay, none of which, he says, is true. Hall even drove fellow soldiers to church in Iraq and paused while they prayed before meals. “I see a name and rank and United States flag on their shoulder. That’s what I believe everyone else should see,” he said. “I was ashamed to say that I was an atheist,” Hall said.
It eventually came out in Iraq in 2007, when he was in a firefight. Hall was a gunner on a Humvee, which took several bullets in its protective shield. Afterward, his commander asked whether he believed in God, Hall said. “I said, ‘No, but I believe in Plexiglas,’ ” Hall said.
The issue came to a head when, according to Hall, a superior officer, Maj. Freddy J. Welborn, threatened to bring charges against him for trying to hold a meeting of atheists in Iraq. Welborn has denied Hall’s allegations.
I know that the military in the US is profoundly right-wing and thus religious, I find it strange that “god fearing” personnel should join the military which in the end is about killing an enemy.
It must be confusing for allied nations to fight alongside the Americans like they do at the moment. You can imagine the conversation;
Yank: “We want you to help us fight some religious extremists in Afghanistan.”
Brit: “Which ones? The ones sporting beards and Kalashnikov’s or the one with a stars and stripes badge on his arm who occasionally take pot shots at us as well?”
So remind me, who are the Animals?
24 04 2008“Five youths are being questioned by police after a heavily pregnant ewe was kicked and stabbed with a pitchfork. Police said the sheep was taken from a field off Polka Road, Wells-next-the-Sea in Norfolk in the early hours of Sunday. The sheep was then dragged through the town and its dead body dumped in a wheelie bin. The five youths were arrested after police followed a trail of blood through the town.”
This above is from the BBC new website.
The title of this post will come into play a couple of times on this thread. What kind of people would do this? Sheer animals.
But here’s the twist. A person who was so shocked over what had happened decided to start a website over this crime and named the five arrested youths on the site. This fellow claimed that because the site was hosted in the US and thus protected under the first amendment which refers to freedom of speech , he could name the accused. I can’t link to the site as it will be removed soon and the owner is now facing criminal charges for what he has done. (His website wasn’t in this country, but the idiot forgot he was).
And I say throw the book at him.
This idiot could have compromised the case against these youths, which the defence lawyers could have and still can claim that the trial has been prejudiced. What if anyone one of them is found innocent? The due process of law must be followed, by naming them he could have jeopardised the outcome.
I’ve been looking at a few sites and the replies that have been turning up have been nothing short of lynch mob mentality. We forget something that is very important in Law and it protects all of us, and that is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. No sooner than something offends some peoples sensibilities like this that we are throwing that noose over the nearest tree branch, which to me makes these people behave like the animals they want to execute.
We had lynch mob rule on the streets of Britain a few years back. This was over Megans Law, which requires authorities to make information available regarding sex offenders public in the US and some wanted this kind of law introduced in the UK. What we got was a media frenzy, particularly from the Red-tops(Sun, Star, Mirror etc) and gangs of people hounding out individuals who were “perceived” to be Pedophiles, forcing them to leave their homes. None of these individuals were proven to be so. I seem to remember this was quite prevelant in Portsmouth, Which to me is unsurprising.
How quickly the unintelligent amongst us descend to the level of pack animals, I wonder how many innocent people have died at their hands over Human existence?
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